NY approves same sex marriage
Jun. 25th, 2011 10:18 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
nohwhere_manGovernor signed the bill last last night. And now we are seven.
Now comes the all the griping and whinging-
should have been done by the courts (if it had been, the same people would have said that it should have been done by the legislature), that the people should have had a vote on it (they've not heard of representative democracy), and of course What about the children?!?!? Anyone complaining about the last should read Judge Walker's Findings of Fact from the Prop. 8 trial, it knocks down every argument about that directly.
Get over it, NY, it's done. The sky hasn't fallen on Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, and DC. It didn't fall on California before Prop 8 came around. AFAIK no churches have been required to perform a marriage that they didn't agree with. AFAIK they have never been required to. The divorce rates are unchanged. Life continues as it had, but with more happily married people.
A friend pointed to this on another journal: The Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps talks to the troops (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/06/21/straight-talk-from-top-enlisted-marine-on-dont-ask-repeal/):
Sgt. Maj. Barrett also tackled questions on the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” the military’s ban on gays serving openly in uniform. The Department of Defense is preparing to implement repeal, and Sgt. Maj. Barrett addressed that issue directly.
“Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution is pretty simple,” he told a group of Marines at a base in South Korea. “It says, ‘Raise an army.’ It says absolutely nothing about race, color, creed, sexual orientation.
“You all joined for a reason: to serve,” he continued. “To protect our nation, right?”
“Yes, sergeant major,” Marines replied.
“How dare we, then, exclude a group of people who want to do the same thing you do right now, something that is honorable and noble?” Sgt. Maj. Barrett continued, raising his voice just a notch. “Right?”
Sgt. Maj. Barrett then described conversations with U.K. troops, who saw a similar ban lifted a decade ago, with little disruption. And to drive the point home, he produced a pocket copy of the Constitution.
“Get over it,” he said. “We’re magnificent, we’re going to continue to be. … Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines.”
That's the right attitude, "treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect". Now maybe it will happen more.
Now comes the all the griping and whinging-
should have been done by the courts (if it had been, the same people would have said that it should have been done by the legislature), that the people should have had a vote on it (they've not heard of representative democracy), and of course What about the children?!?!? Anyone complaining about the last should read Judge Walker's Findings of Fact from the Prop. 8 trial, it knocks down every argument about that directly.
Get over it, NY, it's done. The sky hasn't fallen on Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, and DC. It didn't fall on California before Prop 8 came around. AFAIK no churches have been required to perform a marriage that they didn't agree with. AFAIK they have never been required to. The divorce rates are unchanged. Life continues as it had, but with more happily married people.
A friend pointed to this on another journal: The Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps talks to the troops (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/06/21/straight-talk-from-top-enlisted-marine-on-dont-ask-repeal/):
Sgt. Maj. Barrett also tackled questions on the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” the military’s ban on gays serving openly in uniform. The Department of Defense is preparing to implement repeal, and Sgt. Maj. Barrett addressed that issue directly.
“Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution is pretty simple,” he told a group of Marines at a base in South Korea. “It says, ‘Raise an army.’ It says absolutely nothing about race, color, creed, sexual orientation.
“You all joined for a reason: to serve,” he continued. “To protect our nation, right?”
“Yes, sergeant major,” Marines replied.
“How dare we, then, exclude a group of people who want to do the same thing you do right now, something that is honorable and noble?” Sgt. Maj. Barrett continued, raising his voice just a notch. “Right?”
Sgt. Maj. Barrett then described conversations with U.K. troops, who saw a similar ban lifted a decade ago, with little disruption. And to drive the point home, he produced a pocket copy of the Constitution.
“Get over it,” he said. “We’re magnificent, we’re going to continue to be. … Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines.”
That's the right attitude, "treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect". Now maybe it will happen more.
